MLS 13 Day 3 Server Red race 1 - Request cancellation for Clande

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orione
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MLS 13 Day 3 Server Red race 1 - Request cancellation for Clande

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Submission Type:

1. Your registered Boat Name: Clande

2. Race Day:3

3, Group (colour):red

4. Race (number)1

5. Time (in Replay):11:05.44

6. Rule(s) applicable:16.1

7. Boat(s) involved: Clande vs PCosta BRA SAT

8. Description:PCosta approaching the windward mark has tacked and touched Clande with the stern. Clande asked for the cancellation, then changed his mind and made a 360 pen

9. Print Screen attached (required fo a manual protest):no

10. Replay attached (recommended):no
orione
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Re: MLS 13 Day 3 Server Red race 3 - Request cancellation for Clande

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Sorry committee I forgot to attach the screenshot of the 360 pen
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Red server Race 1 - Cancel Explanation - PCosta vs Cl@ande

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Submission Type:

1. Your registered Boat Name: PCosta BRA SAT

2. Race Day: 3

3, Group (colour): RED

4. Race (number): 1

5. Time (in Replay): 10:50:00 - 11:15:00

6. Rule(s) applicable: 18.3

7. Boat(s) involved: PCosta, Cl@ande

8. Description: Close to the first windward mark, after maneuvering in front of cl@nde, being tacked on the port side, I received a penalty for the game, at the moment when I started the change of boarding maneuver.
It turns out that my boat was limited to budget due to another vessel on the starboard side (Lasvegas). The cl@ande boat did not give me enough room to maneuver, nor did it stay far enough away.
Sorry bad translation.

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Re: MLS 13 Day 3 Server Red race 3 - Request cancellation for Clande

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Merged these two cancellations, as it's for the same situation.

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Re: MLS 13 Day 3 Server Red race 3 - Request cancellation for Clande

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Facts:
PCosta on port to windward of Clande, bear away to pass behind Larsvegas on starboard.
PCosta and Clande both luffs when PCosta is passing behind Larsvegas.
There is contact between PCostas stern and the port side of Clande.
PCosta got a penalty from VSK under rule 18.3.a and Clande under rule 16.1, both cancelled.
Clande took a 360 turn 1 minute and 30 seconds later.

Conclusion:
PCosta was first entitled to room under rule 19 to pass behind Larsvegas.
Room was given and PCosta sailed within this room.
When Clande luffed, PCosta was entitled to room to keep clear.
Room was not given, which means Clande broke rule 16.1.
PCosta broke rule 11, but is exonerated because he sailed within the room he was entitled to.
PCosta's cancellation accepted.
Clande's turn was not according to rule 44.2 hence he has not taken a penalty.
Clande to be scored DSQ in the race.

Note:
Clande could if necessary have released the sails to slow down in order to get clear of other boats sooner.

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