MLS 14 Day 2 Blue server race 4 - PC Batboat vs DonMasino and redress

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MLS 14 Day 2 Blue server race 4 - PC Batboat vs DonMasino and redress

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Submission Type:
PC and redress

1. Your registered Boat Name:
Batboat

2. Race Day:
2

3, Group (colour):
Blue

4. Race (number):
4

5. Time (in Replay):
29.58

6. Rule(s) applicable:
16.1

7. Boat(s) involved:
BatBoat and DonMasino

8. Description:
Batboat and DonMasino is approaching finish line starboard side. Batboat has inside overlap on DonMasino. At 30.00 DonMasino very sudden Gybes. By doing this Batboat receives a rule 18.2.A from umpire, since umpire wrongly recognize DonMasino as being right of way boat since DonMasino (rather sudden) is on port side when contact is being made.

Since DonMasino makes the sudden gybe Batboat has no room to keep clear.

Depending on the factual interpretation of the judges, DonMasino should be DSQ in violation of rule 15 (When a boat acquires right of way, she shall initially give the other boat room to keep clear, unless she acquires right of way because of the other boat’s actions.) OR DonMasino should be DSQ in violation of rule 16.1 (When a right-of-way boat changes course, she shall give the other boat room to keep clear.)

After the incident BatBoat asks for PC right away - and DonMasino does not reply right away.

Please have a look here:


Video, comment:
0.22: Penalty
0.25: BatBoat asks penalty
0.43: Donmasino cancels (too late)
0.47: Batboat gives Thor penalty (since Batboat is unable to cross finish line)
0.54: Batboat crosses finish line - and cannot therefore give Thor PC.

Batboat should receive redress since Donmasino is far too late to give BatBoat cancel - and the incoident with Thor would not have occured.

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10. Replay attached (recommended):
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Re: MLS 14 Day 2 Blue server race 4 - PC Batboat vs DonMasino and redress

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one thing I would always say to my teammates was to stay away from Jedi... I keep reminding myself over the years
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Re: MLS 14 Day 2 Blue server race 4 - PC Batboat vs DonMasino and redress

Post by euphoria »

Facts:
Donmasino enters the zone inside overlapped of Batboat.
Donmasino gybes and is heading towards the mark.
Batboat sails straight and the boats crashes.



Conclusion:
Batboat had to give mark-room to Donmasino under rule 18.2(a).
Batboat failed to give mark-room.

Decision:
Batboat disqualifed in race 4.

Note:
Usually a boat does not have to anticipate what the other boat will do, and can wait to react before it actually happens. An exception is with regards to mark-room. Immediately after entering the zone, the boat entitled to mark-room can sail straight towards to mark. If the other boat will not be able to give mark-room at that stage, the boat has to put her self in another position in advance where she will be able to give mark-room from.

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